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᠓ Free Download Selected Dialogues of Plato: The Benjamin Jowett Translation ᡣ Kindle Ebook By Plato ᢟ ᠓ Free Download Selected Dialogues of Plato: The Benjamin Jowett Translation ᡣ Kindle Ebook By Plato ᢟ Introduction Having the task behind me, I can propose with some seriousness what I did not begin to guess when it still lay ahead of me namely, that revising someone else s translations of works of Plato is not much less demanding than translating them afresh That raises the question, Why stick with Jowett s old versions at all why not simply produce new ones I have consulted many of the translations produced since Jowett s, many of them up to date in every possible sense, and Jowett s, in my judgment, remain superior, in the most important respects, to them all Jowett has a better command not just of English prose style, but of English prose styles, and that gives him a great advantage in rendering the language of a master of variation like Plato In a work like the Symposium, to take a notable example, Plato puts on display his version of the idiosyncratic speaking styles of a group containing two dramatists of genius, plus a less original third who was ranked in antiquity as the greatest tragic poet after Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides of the remaining four speakers, one, the drunken Alcibiades, was reckoned by his contemporaries to be the most all around brilliant member of his generation The longest speech is by Socrates, on whom see below Jowett s successors, especially the recent ones, are hampered by the contemporary abhorrence of any style other than the sponta same thing as the plain style though Jowett may sometimes have erred too much in the other directions Modern tastes seem to coerce modern translators into adopting one or the other of two approaches only the uniformly casual and colloquial, or the uniformly, and dryly, literal neither approach likely to produce a particularly happy version of Plato s literary works, which are those preeminently on display in this edition Jowett, in comparison, had much greater freedom than we do when Plato s speakers soar, Jowett often succeeds remarkably well in soaring with them and we can follow along without too much embarrassment after all, we expect such flights in nineteenth century writers Further, I suspect that there are many besides me who actually prefer to think and find that the speech of such personages as Plato depicts might be stylish, subtler, richer, and accomplished than what we are used to hearing from our own friends and selves.The revisions I have attempted are of two kinds first, I have incorporated scholarly advances made in the establishment and interpretation of the Greek text since Jowett s time, in which category I include changes imposed where I disagree with Jowett s interpretation or think he made a mistake sometimes Jowett changed the order of sentences, for example I have tended to restore the order of the original Second, I have removed archaisms or affectations of or in Jowett s English those thatstrike me as likely to strike my contemporaries as ridiculous or, at best, off puttingly quaint For example, I change Jowett s the tale of love was on this wise to the tale of love was like this What say you to going becomes What do you say to going Please to see to this becomes Please see to this Adjustments of this basic tendency have been made widely and deeply For example, the opening sentence of the Symposium is rendered by Jowett Concerning the things about which you ask to be informed I believe that I am not ill prepared with an answer which manages to be both stilted and a little arch in the high Victorian Oxford manner The Greek, on the other hand, is somewhat informal and quite intimate we are clearly overhearing a conversation that is already in progress, and is conducted among friends the speaker, Apollodorus, uses an idiom that, while not quite diffident, is urbanely removed from the self assertive Actually, it turns out that I am quite well up on the matter you are asking about That is a fairly radical departure from Jowett s text It must be emphasized, however, that I have not found the need for such significant tampering to be spread evenly through the works translated here some passages have been subjected to extensive adjustment, others have been barely touched.At this point, a word about sex would be appropriate, or at least about sex as it connects in a translator s mind to questions of language and style Many of the changes I have made in revising Jowett comply with changes in taste that have occurred between Jowett s time and our own, and the public discussion of sex is a matter about which tastes have changed rather dramatically Since readers can be assumed to have an interest in this subject, it seems worth getting it out in the open.Contemporary readers may automatically assume that since Jowett was a Victorian, his translation of ancient Greek works largely devoted, as, for example, the Phaedrus and the Symposium are, to the joys or at least the theoretical joys of male homosexual love must be full of puritanical euphemisms and bowdlerizations of the frank and uninhibited original texts Jowett is in fact not so prudish, and, important, the originals do not even approach the lewd When a speaker is referring unambiguously to physical sex acts for example, a young boy s complying with the sexual initiatives of an older male suitor Jowett says things like the boy grants his lover this favour, which may strike us as coy The fact of the matter is, however, that grant a favor is not a bad literal translation of the most characteristic Greek verb used in such contexts, charizesthai cognate with the word from which our charity derives Jowett s version, as it turns out, is misleading, but not because of any lack of literal accuracy his infidelity to the original is rather a result of situating his literal rendition into an alien cultural context in Greek, the association of charizesthai with sexual compliance is so common and consistent that the word is completely clear and hence completely uneu phemistic in the cultures of both Victorian and present day English, to refer to sexual submission as granting a favor is coy In such instances as this I have nudged the renderings in the direction of a greater frankness, without, I hope, descending into the inaccurately vulgar I have, for example, permitted paederastia to emerge as either pederasty or boy love instead of the love of youths, which is too sanitized The essential fact guiding my efforts is that those people in Plato who speak of such matters are not as a rule leering, or coy, or indecent, but consistently urbane and, in many instances, amusedly detached.The translation of passages that treat sexual matters invites discussion of the sexual matters themselves Many readers of the Symposium and the Phaedrus in particular may be taken aback by some of the assumptions revealed in the characters talk Such readers might guess that the persons there depicted by Plato constituted an isolated, specifically homosexual group, or might generalize to the conclusion that pederasty was a much open and widespread practice in Classical Greece than in the Western world of today Both conclusions would be largely wrong, though each contains an element of truth The evidence certainly does suggest that the average Greek male of the Classical period would be comparatively unsurprised and unimpressed if he detected bisexual impulses in his male acquaintance or even in himself there are very few mentions of female homosexuality in the early periods Aristophanes speech in the Symposium contains one of the first while references to male homosexuality, especially with insulting intent in the writings of comic poets such as, again, Aristophanes, are innumerable On the other hand, however common it might have been thought to be, the homosexual impulse certainly does not seem to have been accorded blanket approval or admiration by the preponderance of Athenian citizens to confine ourselves to the best documented community for example, we often see the imputation of such impulses or activities deployed as a way of ridiculing or insulting a person In sum, it seems about right to say that the culture of the period, if it did not accept homosexuality to quite the warmhearted degree that some modern advocates have hoped, it nonetheless did expect homosexual impulses and acts to exist and occur routinely than present day Western cultures have tended to Some of the characters in the Symposium and Phaedrus appear, in the aggregate, to go even further, and to exhibit an even greater receptivity, to the point of avidity in several cases The five works assembled here have been chosen to serve as an introduction to Plato, and in particular to the literary side of his genius The volume also forms a good introduction to Plato s representation of his teacher Socrates, the figure who takes the dominant role in the majority of Plato s works Socrates was born in Athens in 469 b.c and lived there until 399, when he was put to death by the Athenian state for the crime of impiety He wrote nothing, but was so devoted to philosophical conversation that he neglected all other pursuits in its favor, eventually reducing his family to poverty as a result He is quite rightly regarded as one of the chief founders of the Western philosophical tradition, and in antiquity the philosophical schools of Platonism, Cynicism, and Stoicism, among others, proclaimed their descent from him Almost everything we know of him derives from the depictions of Plato, the historian and essayist Xenophon, and the comic poet Aristophanes, all fellow Athenians.This evidence especially that of Plato indicates that Socrates was the originator of a distinctive method of philosophical inquiry the elenchus, which can be characterized as a form of cross examination aimed at revealing inconsistency of argumentation Socrates persistently denies possessing any positive knowledge himself, except for the knowledge that he is ignorant, and his relentless application of the elenchus most often serves the entirely negative purpose of demonstrating the ignorance and errors of others people who do claim to possess positive knowledge Of course, such relentless and, it can be added in Socrates case, utterly fearless questioning is likely to act as an irritant upon those vested interests that are often its most gratifying victims.Socrates seems to have regarded himself as a pious man In the Apology he represents his life of ceaseless interrogation as a mission on behalf of the god Apollo, and the one primary question underlying all of his inquiries is the ethical one, What is the proper manner of our living Nonetheless, it is easy to understand how his determined skepticism toward all supposed wisdom, both traditional and newfangled, could be taken to imply also religious skepticism, and, even, as his prosecutors claimed, outright atheism For the ancient Greeks did not isolate religion into one central institution, but rather assumed and felt the presence of a religious dimension in every activity and phenomenon Thus they had, for example, no canon of sacred or scriptural texts that embodied the word of god, but rather conceived of all poetry as deriving from the communications of divine beings the Muses to poets Was poetry then sacred, or profane Both, and neither It was, like almost everything else, a mixture of divine and nondivine, in proportions usually concealed to the perception of mere humans Caution and respect were therefore always called for, and that was a great part of piety.Impiety, on the other hand, was a public crime, because the provocations of a single person could bring divine wrath down upon his entire community a principle well illustrated in the opening of the Oedipus Rex of Sophocles, Socrates older contemporary It was on this basis that Socrates was successfully prosecuted, as represented in the Apology In that work, which purports to record the speeches he made at his trial, Socrates defends himself by the perhaps risky, but to us informative, tack of explaining the history of his philosophical mission, that unending examination of his fellow citizens by means of the elenchus, his characteristic and, it would appear, purely destructive mode of inquiry.My use of the word purports in the last sentence brings us to a central question, one that every reader of Plato must give some thought to What is the relationship of the Socrates represented in Plato s writings to the historical Socrates, the flesh and blood man who died at age seventy in 399, when Plato, who lived to 347, was perhaps thirty No wholly satisfactory answer is available We can feel some confidence, however, that Plato, who in the Apology represents himself as having been present in support of Socrates at the latter s trial, was profoundly affected and disillusioned by the decision of his fellow citizens to put him to death to take the life of a man whom Plato elsewhere characterized as the most intelligent and most just of the people of his time.1 We might accordingly conjecture that Plato s decision to represent the conversation of this admired friend was initially motivated by a desire to commemorate and do honor to him, and even to rectify the wrong done by his condemnation.In several of Plato s works, Socrates inquiries are purely negative some other person advances a claim, and Socrates subjects it to rigorous testing the ultimate outcome is either completely negative the claim, in whatever form it is cast, is shown to be self contradictory or at best inconclusive the claim leads to paradox, for example, which is to say that it conflicts with some other claim Since this procedure conforms to what is believed to be known of the historical Socrates method, scholars have concluded that these negative or inconclusive works represent Plato s most faithful renditions of the historical Socrates, and probably belong to the earliest stage of his writing career.The greater number of Plato s works, however, present large amounts of positive doctrine systematic theories on an astonishingly wide range of subjects And still the favorite lead character is Socrates, in whose mouth these doctrines are typically placed It follows from the earlier premise that the historical Socrates professed ignorance and propounded no positive doctrine that the representation of Socrates in these other works significantly departs from what we know as the actual figure Thus, within Plato s works themselves, we find on the one side an approximately historical Socrates whose characteristic mode of inquiry is the rapid fire sequence of briefly answered questions, leading inexorably to the exposure of fallacy in his conversation partner s position On the other side, a rather different Socrates is able to tease out of his negative inquiries positive conclusions, sometimes expounded in speeches of impressive eloquence and length This speechifying Socrates, then, is often regarded as an unhistorical version, contrived by Plato to be the spokesman for his own ideas.Plato is philosophy, and philosophy, Plato Ralph Waldo Emerson Selected Dialogues by Lucian of Samosata Goodreads Jan , A translation fourteen s dialogues, offering a cross section his styles and satirical targets, from serious polemic Alexander, Peregrinus to lighter squibs character portrayals the Courtesans Plato giving us modern faithful both Jowett best features own masterly style Gathered here are many liveliest richest texts Ion takes up question poetr Benjamin translations have long been classics in their right PenguinRandomHouse About Selected In this volume, Professor Hayden Pelliccia has revised renderings five key PDF Format Dialogues Ebook Download book will be customers who buy it And then watch your market come you pdf download selected dialogues free ebook 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